Yves in The GYGS: “Herman confirmed that Pim Fortuyn was tapped”

It's time for The GYGS again. The weekly podcast show 'about nothing and everything' by business friends Erik de Vlieger and Yves Gijrath. More 'everything' than 'nothing' this week. Yves reveals for the first time the contents of the lunch he had with Pim Fortuyn, 6 days before his death. Afterwards, butler Herman confirmed that Pim had to fear for his life. And it was tapped... But who made that call?